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Alan Axe



Location: South Auckland

PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:40 pm     Paul Binns Swords. Reply with quote

Has anyone had any experience of these ? They have a reputation for destroying anything that fights against them, and lasting forever.
The downside is the long order waiting time.
http://www.paul-binns-swords.co.uk/
pmel018
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Location: Wokingham, near Reading, UK

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:52 am      Reply with quote

I have several, what exactly do you want to know?
Phil
Alan Axe



Location: South Auckland

PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:42 pm      Reply with quote

I am interested in how they perform, and any good or bad points with them.
I have an older Darkwood sword, and want to replace it.
pmel018
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Location: Wokingham, near Reading, UK

PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:48 am      Reply with quote

Hi
Good points- Tough, designed for re-enactment combat
- Good handling, not great clumsy crowbars, it is possible to actually fence with them
-Semi custom made, Paul will adjust to suit, assuming you aren't ordering a stock item
-Correct profile, although not made with historic tecniques(usually) the finished weapons closely replicate the apperance of period weapons.
-Durability, the weapons are stoutly put together, any repairs are simple to make if you can handle peined consruction.

Bad Points- distance, you are a long way from the maker
- lead time, he has a formidable waiting list
- finish, the weapons look handmade, and can appear a bit rough for the money.
-scabbards, usually none supplied.


Not sure that they will destroy anything in their path , but for safe re-enactment use there are few better.
Phil
Bogue
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Location: Palmy

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 8:38 pm      Reply with quote

And Phil said
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- finish, the weapons look handmade, and can appear a bit rough for the money.


sorry Phil but how is that a bad point?

Original swords were handmade and they were fine for the purpose.
No two blades were identical and each would have had it's own handling characteristics.

Much rather have a hand made slightly rough but totally individual blade than a cookie cutter same as the next off the rack jobby.
Ahh but therein lies the difference between swordfighting and re-enacting

My $0.85 worth.

Cheers
Bogue
pmel018
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Location: Wokingham, near Reading, UK

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:31 am      Reply with quote

Hi Bogue
I did ponder including that comment, but if you spend the equivalet of $450-500 NZ ( plus shipping and taxes)for a fairly basic re-enactment sword then its apperance will be a factor. Accurate grind lines and good surface finish should be part of the deal and the lack of these can't be excused by saying "it is hand made". Our ancestors did it and other makers can do it. I own swords from the following makers
Paul Binns
Peter Lyons
Craig Sitch(Manning Imperial)
Armour Class http://www.armourclass.com/
Paul Burridge, Bronze Weapons http://www.bronze-age-swords.com/British_and_European.htm
Albion Swords http://www.albion-swords.com/
Arms and Armor http://armor.com/
Del Tin http://www.deltin.it/home.htm
as well as a couple made by Dean McKinstry, Colins brother.
Many of these have had very hard lives, in use for both re-enactment and HEMA. Every one of them is better finished than and just as well put together as a Binns sword; but none could be called "cookie cutter, same as the next one on the rack" So you spends your money and you takes your pick.
Paul Binns swords are revered in the UK, but as you say there is a big difference between re-enactment and swordfighting
JohnF



Location: Palmy

PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:49 pm     Asymmetry and rough finishing in extant kit Reply with quote

I found a nice thread on MyArmoury that discusses asymmetry and defects in
making of swords. They showed two swords, one belonging to a Duke, the other an
Emperor. They both had asymmetrical aspects. I suggest that some asymmetry was
common. The matter is one of degree.
Alan Axe



Location: South Auckland

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:44 pm      Reply with quote

Thanks for the feedback guys. I have made my mind up.
It`s going to be a Paul Binns sword.
As Phil Burthem is bringing some Paul Binns swords to the Auckland Medieval Festival next week, I will buy one off him and avoid the six month waiting time.
pmel018
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Location: Wokingham, near Reading, UK

PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:06 am      Reply with quote

As long as you get if for the right money you won't go far wrong for an early medieval sword. Enjoy.
Phil
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