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Phil Berghan-Whyman



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:00 am     Kit for combat archery Reply with quote

I was just considering garb for me as a combat archer/crossbowman.

I'm thinking kettle helm over fencing mask (for facial protection) with padded coif to protect from back of head and a leather gorget for neck protection. My Gamby and padded legs for body protection (+ the every necessary box to protect the family jewels). Leather gloves for the hands.

Single sword and buckler at my left side. Canvas bag of bolts at my right, and a combat rated crossbow as my primary weapon.

I'd like to look as close to period as possible (though the mask will obviously look anachronistic).

Suggests/comments welcomed.

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gt1cm2



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:17 am      Reply with quote

what is your time period and location? (English, French etc)
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Phil Berghan-Whyman



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:35 am      Reply with quote

English. 1350ish.
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Phil Berghan-Whyman
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Ysemay




PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:19 am      Reply with quote

all these sites have historical depictions of archers in armour and helms. Mostly they appear to be in chain mail or banded mail but a few of the pics show them with plate vambrace and greaves.

the first one even has images from 1350.

http://www.caama.ca/images/imagemed2.html
http://www.trishstuff.com/images/galleries/sca/archersfordragonsbarb.JPG
http://www.hawkshaven.com/sca/archery/carules/carules2-1999.html
Phil Berghan-Whyman



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:20 pm      Reply with quote

Thanks Ysemay,

I like these from the links you sent:







I also like this pic I collected a while ago while surfing.


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NigelT
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Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:56 pm      Reply with quote

Nice pics.

It might just be me wanting to take over the world, but given that a lot of archers are non-combatants generally, they don't tend to wear club surcoats.

I wonder if it would be worth either those people getting club colours for Taupo OR we start a sort of national archers guild for the sole purpose of wearing matching surcoats on the battlefield... could look really good. Just a thought.
gt1cm2



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:00 pm      Reply with quote

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I wonder if it would be worth either those people getting club colours for Taupo OR we start a sort of national archers guild for the sole purpose of wearing matching surcoats on the battlefield... could look really good. Just a thought.


Hmmm yes well I might have to pay my dues and get me a Falcon surcoat

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did they beat the drums slowly
did the play the fife lowly
did they sound the death march as they lowered you down
did the band play the last post and chorus
did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
hopies



Location: Taumarunui

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:05 pm      Reply with quote

gt1cm2 wrote:

Hmmm yes well I might have to pay my dues and get me a Falcon surcoat


well thats just sneaky!

Sophie

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hopies



Location: Taumarunui

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:06 pm      Reply with quote

but for the sircoats perhaps some way to tell club affiliation (if any) as well as the archer colors (1/2 and 1/2 sir coats?)

would be cool

S

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NigelT
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Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:07 pm      Reply with quote

hopies wrote:
but for the sircoats perhaps some way to tell club affiliation (if any) as well as the archer colors (1/2 and 1/2 sir coats?)

would be cool

S


Hey, I like that idea. Nice.
gt1cm2



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:13 pm      Reply with quote

hopies wrote:
gt1cm2 wrote:

Hmmm yes well I might have to pay my dues and get me a Falcon surcoat


well thats just sneaky!

Sophie


Not sneaky, I have freely admitted that I haven't paid my dues Very Happy infact I didn't when I was with the Dragons either since I was a non combatant, but I also don't have a surcoat so really nothing sneaky.

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did they beat the drums slowly
did the play the fife lowly
did they sound the death march as they lowered you down
did the band play the last post and chorus
did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
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Location: Hamilton

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:21 pm      Reply with quote

Quote:
but for the sircoats perhaps some way to tell club affiliation (if any) as well as the archer colors (1/2 and 1/2 sir coats?)

would be cool

S


VERY cool idea.

Pick your guild colour and use club affiliations as achievements on the surcoat. Kind of like Justin's shield.

Smile

Now, what are you going to call yourselves?

Nic
gt1cm2



Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:24 pm      Reply with quote

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Now, what are you going to call yourselves?


lol first thing that came to mind was "Up Yours" a play on the archers salute.... maybe not thou Shocked Laughing

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did they beat the drums slowly
did the play the fife lowly
did they sound the death march as they lowered you down
did the band play the last post and chorus
did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
Freebooter
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Location: Hamilton

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:32 pm      Reply with quote

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lol first thing that came to mind was "Up Yours" a play on the archers salute.... maybe not thou


Nice motto though!

Nic
NigelT
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Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:40 pm      Reply with quote

LOL.

I like 'Up Yours', and I can imagine the heraldry to with it, but it's perhaps not quite so public friendly.

Do we actually need a name? It wouldn't be a club or group as such, just a designation that you're an archer. Something for people to add to their kit, so that when everyone else is kitted up and looking pretty on the battlefield, the archers can look like actual archers instead of a bunch of townsfolk who picked up bows at the last minute because the army was on holiday.

I'm assuming that people would want to do this, or would people prefer to just wear their normal kit?

Nigel
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