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		| Phil Berghan-Whyman 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:00 am     Kit for combat archery |   |  
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				| I was just considering garb for me as a combat archer/crossbowman. 
 I'm thinking kettle helm over fencing mask (for facial protection) with padded coif to protect from back of head and a leather gorget for neck protection.  My Gamby and padded legs for body protection (+ the every necessary box to protect the family jewels). Leather gloves for the hands.
 
 Single sword and buckler at my left side.  Canvas bag of bolts at my right, and a combat rated crossbow as my primary weapon.
 
 I'd like to look as close to period as possible (though the mask will obviously look anachronistic).
 
 Suggests/comments welcomed.
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 Phil Berghan-Whyman
 "Hand me the sword and ask me the question again"
 http://www.handypaladin.co.nz
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		| gt1cm2 
 
 
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:17 am |   |  
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				| what is your time period and location? (English, French etc) _________________
 did they beat the drums slowly
 did the play the fife lowly
 did they sound the death march as they lowered you down
 did the band play the last post and chorus
 did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
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		| Phil Berghan-Whyman 
 
  
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 9:35 am |   |  
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				| English. 1350ish. _________________
 Phil Berghan-Whyman
 "Hand me the sword and ask me the question again"
 http://www.handypaladin.co.nz
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		| Ysemay 
 
  
 
 
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		| Phil Berghan-Whyman 
 
  
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:20 pm |   |  
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				| Thanks Ysemay, 
 I like these from the links you sent:
 
 
   
 
   
 
   
 I also like this pic I collected a while ago while surfing.
 
 
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 Phil Berghan-Whyman
 "Hand me the sword and ask me the question again"
 http://www.handypaladin.co.nz
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		| NigelT Site Admin
 
  
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:56 pm |   |  
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				| Nice pics. 
 It might just be me wanting to take over the world, but given that a lot of archers are non-combatants generally, they don't tend to wear club surcoats.
 
 I wonder if it would be worth either those people getting club colours for Taupo OR we start a sort of national archers guild for the sole purpose of wearing matching surcoats on the battlefield... could look really good. Just a thought.
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		| gt1cm2 
 
 
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:00 pm |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | I wonder if it would be worth either those people getting club colours for Taupo OR we start a sort of national archers guild for the sole purpose of wearing matching surcoats on the battlefield... could look really good. Just a thought. | 
 
 Hmmm yes well I might have to pay my dues and get me a Falcon surcoat
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 did they beat the drums slowly
 did the play the fife lowly
 did they sound the death march as they lowered you down
 did the band play the last post and chorus
 did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
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		| hopies 
 
 
 Location: Taumarunui
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:05 pm |   |  
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				|  	  | gt1cm2 wrote: |  	  | Hmmm yes well I might have to pay my dues and get me a Falcon surcoat
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 well thats just sneaky!
 
 Sophie
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		| hopies 
 
 
 Location: Taumarunui
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:06 pm |   |  
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				| but for the sircoats perhaps some way to tell club affiliation (if any) as well as the archer colors (1/2 and 1/2 sir coats?) 
 would be cool
 
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		| NigelT Site Admin
 
  
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:07 pm |   |  
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				|  	  | hopies wrote: |  	  | but for the sircoats perhaps some way to tell club affiliation (if any) as well as the archer colors (1/2 and 1/2 sir coats?) 
 would be cool
 
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 Hey, I like that idea. Nice.
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		| gt1cm2 
 
 
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:13 pm |   |  
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				|  	  | hopies wrote: |  	  |  	  | gt1cm2 wrote: |  	  | Hmmm yes well I might have to pay my dues and get me a Falcon surcoat
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 well thats just sneaky!
 
 Sophie
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 Not sneaky, I have freely admitted that I haven't paid my dues
  infact I didn't when I was with the Dragons either since I was a non combatant, but I also don't have a surcoat so really nothing sneaky. _________________
 did they beat the drums slowly
 did the play the fife lowly
 did they sound the death march as they lowered you down
 did the band play the last post and chorus
 did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
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		| Freebooter Principal Sponsor
 
  
 Location: Hamilton
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:21 pm |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | but for the sircoats perhaps some way to tell club affiliation (if any) as well as the archer colors (1/2 and 1/2 sir coats?) 
 would be cool
 
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 VERY cool idea.
 
 Pick your guild colour and use club affiliations as achievements on the surcoat. Kind of like Justin's shield.
 
 
   
 Now, what are you going to call yourselves?
 
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		| gt1cm2 
 
 
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:24 pm |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | Now, what are you going to call yourselves? | 
 
 lol first thing that came to mind was "Up Yours" a play on the archers salute....  maybe not thou
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 did they beat the drums slowly
 did the play the fife lowly
 did they sound the death march as they lowered you down
 did the band play the last post and chorus
 did the pipes play the flowers of the forest
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		| Freebooter Principal Sponsor
 
  
 Location: Hamilton
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:32 pm |   |  
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				|  	  | Quote: |  	  | lol first thing that came to mind was "Up Yours" a play on the archers salute.... maybe not thou
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 Nice motto though!
 
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		| NigelT Site Admin
 
  
 Location: Wellington
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:40 pm |   |  
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				| LOL. 
 I like 'Up Yours', and I can imagine the heraldry to with it, but it's perhaps not quite so public friendly.
 
 Do we actually need a name? It wouldn't be a club or group as such, just a designation that you're an archer. Something for people to add to their kit, so that when everyone else is kitted up and looking pretty on the battlefield, the archers can look like actual archers instead of a bunch of townsfolk who picked up bows at the last minute because the army was on holiday.
 
 I'm assuming that people would want to do this, or would people prefer to just wear their normal kit?
 
 Nigel
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