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Effigy



Location: Warkworth

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:44 pm     Arrow Bag / quiver Reply with quote

Can anyone point me in the right direction for 12th century English arrow containers please? I also want to make myself a really nice vambrace on account of being really good at slapping my own arm.
I like the look of this...
...but I need to know more about it's authenticity.
All opinions and wafflings pertinent to archery in the time of Henry II would be appreciated please.



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Frosty



Location: Palmerston North

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:18 pm      Reply with quote

hey effigy
i have a quiver like the one above except im working on the leather disc.
the examples of the quiver above was found onboard the Mary Rose. so id say that they are fairly authentic.

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Archer



Location: Taupo

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:00 pm     Arrow Bag / quiver Reply with quote

Hey effigy

Looks pretty good to me, however there were also Basket Quivers. I will try and find some pics, these used to carry about 40 arrows.

Cheers,

Graham Very Happy



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Effigy



Location: Warkworth

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:16 pm      Reply with quote

Wipes dribble from chin....
Shocked Thats gorgeous..... and Ive seen one in a C12th manuscript!!!! You have jogged my memory. Shuffles off to stack of research notes and wonders why her filing system isn't better.
But bag will have to do for now....
Thank you so much! There are some amazingly knowledgeable people on this list.
Anne
NigelT
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Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:00 pm      Reply with quote

Love that Basket Quiver. Very nice.

The Mary Rose sank in 1545. So it's potentially later period than what you're looking for. The problem you have is that it's very difficult to find references to things in that period. You might have to just hazard a guess that they would have had something similar.

Nigel
Effigy



Location: Warkworth

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:32 pm      Reply with quote

Oh you aint telling me a thing! Twisted Evil
Researching Hawis de Werecewode has severely tested my 5th form Latin and French! The information is out there - it just not in contemporary English. Luckily my major is in visual arts, so I rely on reading the pictures. Which is fortunate because thats exactly why 12th century painters and illuminists had a job - contemporary folk couldn't read medieval Latin , French, English or any other language either Laughing
Effigy



Location: Warkworth

PostPosted: Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:46 pm      Reply with quote

Oh my!
Just spotted something that may have escaped attention.
'Mary Rose' was Henry the Eighth's war ship.
My Monarch is Henry the Second - Eleanor of Aqitaines's husband, first Plantagenet of England.
Henry the 8th was a megolamanic fat boy Tudor -
Grandpa to the Gentleman Pensioners......
Ducks and runs
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Location: Hamilton

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 6:12 am      Reply with quote

effigy wrote:
Oh my!
My Monarch is Henry the Second - Eleanor of Aqitaines's husband, first Plantagenet of England.
Henry the 8th was a megolamanic fat boy Tudor -
Grandpa to the Gentleman Pensioners......
A Wink


And Henry II wasn't a megalomaniac?

I must have read the wrong bit of history...
Gregor



Location: Whangarei

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 8:12 am      Reply with quote

Lots of quivers in the bayeux tapestry.

Gregor

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Archer



Location: Taupo

PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:58 pm      Reply with quote

As far as I can tell the Basket type of quiver was used to carry large quantities of Arrows in the back of wagons from maybe the Times of Crecy [the battle] but may have been in use prior. Smile
Ian



Location: Auckland

PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:45 pm      Reply with quote

I have an arrow bag with the insert along the lines of the one pictured. As far as i have ever been able to find out they date back to at least 1300. i have also seen manuscripts with that sort of bag, and also much larger bags that appear to have some sort of wicker frame work. Not that I can recall where i read it but I think they were indeed for carrying larger quantities of arrows in baggage. For an archer on the march the bag style, with out without some for of insert, appears to be fairly common.

Ian
Aaron



Location: Cambridge

PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:21 am      Reply with quote

Found this build -along for a basket quiver if your interested. It may not be the same as the one above but I'm sure you could use it as a base.

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000065;p=1
NigelT
Site Admin


Location: Wellington

PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:43 pm      Reply with quote

That's really cool. Thanks for the link Aaron.

Nigel
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